alltime.htm and updates

[Paul-London]

Updated alltime.htm and history.htm.  In history.htm i have to add the rankings offensively and defensively for each team but all the records are completed.

alltime.htm is interesting to see players careers, if there are any players you want me to add then add their season by season stats here and i'll put them in.  Make sure they have a good set of records already or are a promising player with good stats in his first few seasons . I wont add just anyone to the list

[Andrew-Neutral]

I've successully got my "all time head-to-head results" PHP script working on the new computer and so will generate an updated file tonight. I'll post it on my webserver and provide a link via the forum.

[Mario ADK]

Updated alltime.htm and history.htm. 

Can´t "all-time" not be shifted to the left-hand bar? it is so strange where it is right now.... should percetly fit to "GM-stats" and "records" in the bar.....

My main concern is "records" though. the missing years really really hurt us as it makes "records" almost worthless..... can there something be done against it?

btw:
am i correct that "GM stats" is also broke (missing some years)?

[Niki]

@Mario: we had that discussion earlier this season, if I am correct andrew is busy with the previous missing years. I will make an excel sheet with the records at the end of the season. But first my main job is doing the new draftees names.

regarding the GM stats: they are correct more or less, I will look if I can double check them and make adjustments

[Mario ADK]

regarding the GM stats: they are correct more or less, I will look if I can double check them and make adjustments

nope, they are not. we had a discussion weeks ago where we found out that at least one year is missing.....

[Niki]

to be correct, they are more or less good

we played 13 season so 13*14*18 = 3,276, if I count all GM's vic, losses and ties I come to a total of 3,192. So we miss 84 games

Interesting detail is that the winn are not equal to the losses 1,625 vs 1,537 but that are 88!

Also interesting looking at the playoffs: 91 vs 89. I think we lost 1 GM in the overview, who played 6 years! (6*14=84) and lost twice in the wildcards!

If you want I can forward you the excel file with the records!

@Paul: now I have it in excel, I can update it for you after the season and forward it to you in a word file!

[Mario ADK]

@Paul: now I have it in excel, I can update it for you after the season and forward it to you in a word file!

i do not get it: is your file correct or are those 88 or so games missing?

Something is wrong as regarding my stat the current file has the right W/L-numbers for the 7 seasons i played (63W/34L/1T) BUT it says "6yrs" instead of "7yrs"

btw: i am now 75/36/1 in reg season that means i had more than twice as much wins as losses. This makes me #2 among the living GMs behind Marco. Nice stats :-)

[Niki]

we are missing 88 regular games and 2 play off games. my file is a copy of the gm stats on the website!

[Mario ADK]

Your idea of the missing GM just CAN´t be the answer as you said that there are 88 less losses than wins. This guy just could NOT have lost 88 times... All the stats (W/L-percentages) are WRONG if 88 losses are not counted....

i think the file is not worth a penny......

All i can say is that my stat is correct, provided the yearcount is at 7 instead of 6....

[Niki]

I agree it is funny that we miss 88 losses but in total we miss 84 games 

Note: season 14 is your 7th season, till season 13 you only played 6 season, so that is correct

[Mario ADK]

Note: season 14 is your 7th season, till season 13 you only played 6 season, so that is correct

nope, incorrect. this is my 8th season right now.

[Paul-London]

I think is a bit harsh saying its not 'worth a penny' !

Tracking that sort of thing from 9 years ago is tough, yes it might not be 100% but it gives us a good idea

On that list its a year behind so if you are in your 7th season in Season 14 then on the genman.htm it will say 6 as in 6 complete years.  I only update it after every season so then it will become a '7'

I'm confused how long you have been with us, you were with us for 5 years then you suddenly left.  Bruce Henderson then took over and won it all in Season 6 with basically your old team.  He didnt do much and got bored so left.

You then re-joined at the beginning of Season 12.  You can see at the bottom of this file is when the big Ohio/Austria swap happened ( http://www.fwl.org.uk/trades12.htm )

SO you've been a GM for season 12, 13 and 14.  So add your 5 years originally and at the end of this season you will have been a GM for 8 seasons.

On genman.htm it says '6' when it should be 7.  Take your regular season games, 63-1-34, add those altogether and divde by 14 (as in regular season) and its 7.  And after season 14 it will be 8

I'll amend genman.htm to 7 but to me it looks correct

[Paul-London]

If someones won 30 out of 100 games then obviously i divide 100/30 to get the percentage

If someone has won 28 games, tied 4 and lost 96 then out of 128 games i'm unsure what to divide by !  Eg 28/128 (what about the 4 drawn games) so the final figures for people with drawn games are a bit hit/miss

But on the whole that genman.htm is pretty reliable and i wouldnt say its a waste

[Niki]

I already emailed mario, the list I copies from fwl website had an error: In my sheet showed that Andrew had only 11 losses instead of 110 (oops) now we have 15 games to many, I already noticed that all Barcelona GM's have 2 games to much (Think those two happend the moment Munro resigned and Stuart was appointed as GM since Stuart has already 28 games on his name but was named during the season)

[Paul-London]

Well i think Jonathan was very quiet that season so after about game 2 or something i asked him if he wanted to carry on, he didnt have time so i got Stuart in so perhaps Stuart should have -2 losses taken off his record and that put onto Jonathans instead

The list isnt that bad though considering how old it is.  I think for the big names still active its very reliable

[Niki]

13 seasons is 182 games, barcelona had 3 gm's:

C. Longmuir 1 5 0 9 = 13 games
J. Munro 11 78 0 65 = 143 games
S. Mackie 2 10 0 18 = 28 games

Total = 184 games.

That are 2 games to much, I know it went wrong with the change between Munro and Stuart but I remember it was during the season, but was it after 2 games? I have in mind after 6 games or was that the first win of Barca that season 

so it will be:

C. Longmuir 1 5 0 9 = 13 games
J. Munro 11 78 0 65 = 143 games
S. Mackie 2 10 0 16 = 26 games

Total = 182 games

I agree, 99% of the record is ok, I will look if I can solve the error of the extra 15 (now 13) games and will keep it up to date in excel and provide you with it when you need/want it

[Mario ADK]

ok, ok, ok...

my word was referring to 88 missing games (losses) which defenitely would have destroyed any meaning of the file BUT with just 13 games to be sought after i agree it is a great source and a lot of fun to read and it is a lot of fun standing on top of this list. thanks Niki for your Miss-Marple-Style work.....

But plaese do not forget to correct the Jonathan/Stuart-mismatch; and David Bridson is still an capital letters....

yep, it is my 8th season and my stats after season 7 are correct, just the "6yrs" is wrong.....

Btw:
we have 14 seaqson now: wouldn´t it be time to rise the barrier from "16 wins" up to someing like "32 wins"?
i would prefer something like that becaus a GM who has played every game so far would have had the potential of having 14*14=196 wins plus playoffs.
We should raise that margin i think? Paul?

[Niki]

thanks Niki for your Miss-Marple-Style work.....

sorry sorry sorry sorry 

I just used the file from fwl website but the moment I converted it to excel the last number of Andrew's number of losses was lost 

BTW: I updated the file till season 14 and adjsuted Stuarts record

[Paul-London]

I'll raise it to 25 or more wins as then that would get rid of GM's such as Steve Dalgleish who obviously only did a few seasons then retired so his records are never going to change.

Brian Speight would still be on the main list but he did coach nearly 60 games.  Also Jeff Kramer would go out of the list but i think we should keep someone like Ton Vlaming on it who considering he had a weak Admirals team did a great job

When i remember i'll raise it to 25 wins .  To get to 25 wins most people would have GM'ed at least 40-50 games which i think is enough to put them on the top list not the bottom

[Mario ADK]

yep, but only one more season....

25 is fine, next season we can make 30 so those 2 would stay atop of the line.....

at 25 the following would drop:
Lorne Callaghan
Jeff Kramer
Steve Dalgleish

That is fair.

"45" will be a gloriuos day with the current #1 Christian Bender "disappearing" and me hopefully at #2 behind Marco....