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Please vote for who you think should be the first official selections in the FWL Hall of Fame. 

Be totally unbiased and vote who you think truely is a legend in the FWL.  The winners will have a page about them and their career stats listed on the FWL page forever.

Theres been many great players, 5 players however will enter every season.  The players who dont go into the FWL HOF this season will stand a chance next season when they are nominated.

The votes will be hidden for 60 days and then the players with the most votes will enter the HOF.

Please please make sure you vote and make sure all the other GM's do.  It'll be a shame if only 6 of the 18 FWL GM's vote.

Paul the FWL has already a Hall of Fame: www.fwl.org.uk/hof.htm

Well, we've never had a vote. But, yeah, might want to clarify, Paul. :)

Yeah that HOF is pretty poor, i did that years and years ago when the league was only a few seasons old i think.

I think it should be a proper HOF, retired players only and people who have amassed some amazing records. Some of the veteran players who played in the early years then retired due to old age will be included in the next seasons HOF listing.

I'll start again though and get some proper web pages done up, picture of that player, a writeup about his career and also his stats etc.  Bit like the alltime.htm page but much bigger and more of a writeup etc

Should be good

Okay, well, please don't completely ditch those old writeups you had, it would make interesting reading if nothing else.

Incidentally, not that I'm actually concerned that anybody would do anything so untoward, but would you like me to make it so that only confirmed GMs can vote? So that nobody can register a bunch of new accounts and stuff the ballot box?

Yeah totally, that'll be a good idea

After all out of the many hundreds of FWL players to have ever played the game to select your top 5 which includes mostly former ex players of your team is very very dubious !!

If someone has already acted like that i do think limiting it to just forum members is the best idea

Paul what kind of players I miss in the HOF vote are Oliners. I know we have no stats of them but if you give me time I can make a historic overview of all the pro-bowlers (any how many times, seasons etc) for each position.

GMs?

- including those who already retired once but got back  8)

I agree with retired GM's but when to start to be active again they have to be kicked out of the HOF  ;D

No, it's still just us dudes, I just thought I'd toss it out.

Well Niki feel free to check out the hon1.htm, hon2.htm etc etc to see what offensive linemen should be in the FWL HOF

I must admit as its the first time we're doing this properly out of the many 100's of FWL players theres a fair few who totally stick out, next year i'll add some offensive linemen to the mix but considering just 5 are going in this season i think theres not much room for an OL at the moment

Paul, basically the idea of a GM-vote is a good one but i would have prefered another style:

Every season produces 3 HOF-players out of the pool of retired players, starting back in season #1. so there should be a vote after every season (and initially several votes for the past season, one for each season.....). in addition to that we could "carry over" the players ranked 4-6 of the previous vote to the next vote in order to give them a second chance.

so actually we would have 33 HOFers (11*3) plus 3 more after the retirements of season#12 are announced.



just a thought...... but it would give a good picture of FLW all-timers.....

Good idea but to begin with every season i'll include a list of the main great players in the FWL.

Looking at some of the voting some people will be totally biased so i dont want to give a huge list out after every season as some people will vote solely for their players.

I mean take the kicker for example Kendall Trainor.

Best kicker ever in the FWL but surely surely surely players such as Stoney Case and Bobby Phillips would go into the HOF before Trainor ?  I think the initial 5 inductees would presumably include the leagues all time leading passer, receiver and rusher.  Add some leading defensive players and theres hardly any room this time for the best kicker of all time.

Just my opinion of course but some of the voting is surprising me !

@Mario: it is agood idea but you never know how many great players will retire every season. You can have the problem that in 1 season 15 very good players retires and another season only 1.

@Paul: maybe it is an idea to have every two months a HOF vote. We haven't done it the last 11 seasons so we have to make it up

We can think of do a HOF vote for receivers, RB, QB, Oliners, Dliners, LB, DB's and Kickers and punters. For each group we select between the 13 and 15 players and the best 5 will go to HOF

Well i wont do them that frequently as its difficult getting GM participation

So far only i think 6 GM's have done any voting so if i did this much more frequently there would be very few people doing it

did you really expect more? just a few hard-core-GMs use this forum regularly (btw: this forum is tecnically the best i have ever seen). one the other hand: up to now YOU where the only one who has decidid who is an ALL-TIMEr and who is not. 6 is 5 more than one....

What about this:
the commissioner is eligible for 5 votes, the rest of us for one...... (that would make 10 votes so far) ;-)

No, but anything's possible.


SMF isn't perfect but I like it more than the major alternatives, yeah. If anybody wants to do a custom theme to match the league colors or something like that, I'm game to put it up.

Hi,
in my opinion the idea of voting all two months will be worth to try out!
It will be much more easy to choose some few players all two months then to read through 30+ players once.
Perhaps wou won't get all 18 GMs to vote, but perhaps some of them will vote more often when they see their players nominated...so also Marios idea will be a possibility to activate the passive GMs... ;D

Let's see...i already gave up my vote! It's a very impressive list where nearly all of them are worth to reach th HOF...

Ciao, Miguel

Well just like the NFL when its down to the final 15 or so every single one of them is impressive.

For now we'll stick like this just because if i did a large list then people will vote for their own players like you said, its been seen already in this small list.  If people just vote for their own players then the whole idea of the HOF is pointless sadly

Hi,

I admit that I did vote strong on my team, but how could you not vote for Bobby, Stoney, Toderick  ?
I mean deserve Emmit Smith or Joe Montana or Jerry Rice  not to be in the NFL Hall of fame ?

Regarding the DLiners all see the sacks stats, but I also have still in mind how they did win games
for my team ! And Mills was 3 times EFC Def MVP (also a record for defensive players).
Jon Carter was Bowl MVP in 2001 (one of only 2 defplayer ever winning that honor)

In general I think our league has such a strong history allready that we could vote at least for another 5
Hall of Fame players soon. I mean this time we have 3 players that should be in definitely. The next
5 candidates will represent more the 'not-so-big-names' that are still very important players.
Like the best PR or K ever.

Just a litle thought ;-)

bye and tschuess
Marco

Well i think with your strong side the last 10 seasons you have many stars so you'll vote for many of your players.  Just some other GM's i think have been a bit biased ;-)

Still i think its good GM's get the vote, just that they dont abuse it ! ;-)

Well i'm thinking of some good things to do on the HOF Player Pages, when i have time next week i might do one for one of the players who i think we all know will make the HOF team (Bobby Phillips).  I'll try to do that next week to give everyone a taster of what it'll show for a HOF player.

Both Carter and Mills are classic defensive players and if they dont go into the HOF this time i'm sure they'll be in soon after.

I personally think Kendall Trainor was the best kicker ever just that on the first vote i dont think he should go in as theres many other players who should go in first but thats just my opinion

The voting ended on Sunday

The final votes have been counted and the 5 players to be entered into the FWL Hall of Fame are....

HB Bobby Phillips (Frankfurt)
WR Toderick Malone (London)
DE Jon Carter II (NY, Frankfurt)
QB Dave Barr (Austria, Scotland, Rhein, Birmingham)
QB Stoney Case (Barcelona, Frankfurt)

It'll take some time but i'll be doing HOF pages for these players very soon

good choices....

Good choices and very obvious ones.

They are all-time leaders and most award winning players.

But I am still glad to have 3 former team members in the firts 5 Hall of Fame enductees.
Thank you for all who voted for them :-)

Paul, when will the next group of players be open to voting ?

Well i'm going to try to start doing the FWL Hall of Fame pages for each one in the next few weeks.  I would say in 3-4 weeks i'll list another set for people to vote on

Not a bad turnout, 12 of the 18 GM's voted which isnt bad but be nice to get a full set or a few more voting.