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you know that "Dinner for two"-slogan?

Well it applies again to Austria - even in the face of harsh criticism by the commissioner. Austria will rest the following players for the meaningless game in week 14 against Scotland:

QB1 Anes (so Cedric Bonner gets what probably will be his last snap of his great career....)
HB1 Simonton
WR1 Hatchette
G1 Dorenboos
DE1 Rasmussen
LB1 Barr
S1 Mayer
CB1 Shazor

"It is time to give those backups a chance to show the world out there that they deserve to be on this team", GM Kreiner ended ths short press-briefing.....

Must admit i'm sad to see Ken Simonton benched.  He was very close to 1000 yards

Can understand why you are benching some of your players specially what happened to Montreal this week with some major injuries.

Probably will change some of the awards / All-FWL nominations if some of the players are benched.  I can see why you are doing it, at least you arent starting a 3rd string FA QB which you picked up a day earlier !!! ;)

Anes has had a big year throwing touchdowns, turned out to be a very good signing.  You nearly gave up on him after his awful first season with Austria then of course hes been excellent since.

My idea is that it can also happen at teh first play in the PO! if it happens it will happen, I just think it could have influence on yoru team when a player is starting and then being benched and then starting again. If I am correct you had it once with Bouman: had a super season, you started 1 or 2 games Adamson and in the PO Bouman played crap

but I understand Austria is doing it especially since he has to play two weeks ina row against Scotland.

But I never would do it, I just hate it to lose a game, I am still not amused about the result of week 6 ::)

Well the only time i made the playoffs while i had Rob Adamson was Season 12.

The last game of Season 12 (i was already in the playoffs) i had Todd Bouman start that game as i just checked the play by play.

Adamson started Week 12 won that game.  Bouman started Week 13 and 14.  In Week 13 he was horrible with 2 ints and lost that game and Bouman lost the Week 14 game 21-18 on a last play Jose Cortez Montreal FG from 49 yards out.

In the playoffs my whole team played badly as i lost 22-7 to the Riders. 

Once i was in the playoffs i did start Adamson for a game but Bouman started the last two regular season games.

With the last few seasons my team has been out of the playoff race i have tended to start my backup QB the last few games when Bouman reaches 3000 yards passing on the season and my team out of the playoff race.  I personally get 'nervous' resting players before a playoff game.

Would have been interesting if you had won that game, imagine the pressure this week if Amsterdam were 13-0 !!

That game in Week 6 really was a bad one for you as you were at home, at least you were playing one of the best teams in Montreal.  However in the 1st half of that game you had a 20 yard FG wide !!  That could have been the difference as the game was 12-10 Montreal.

Second half apart from one long Huerta run your team was very poor and punted on every other drive and on their final drive went 9 yards and out.  Jose Cortez kicked a 51 yard FG for the lead with just over 5 minutes left.  On the 3rd down play Danny Wuerrfel fumbled the ball but a Montreal lineman recovered.  However if the recovery was for -4 yards not -3 yards then Montreal would have punted as teams dont try a 52 yard FG in the FWL.  One yard and Montreal wouldnt have gone for the FG !

On the ensuing kickoff Eddie Conti returned the kick 47 yards to your own 49 yard line.  But on 3rd & 8 WR Trevor Insleys 8 yard catch was ruled just short and you punted.  Montreal went on a drive to run time off the clock and you finally got the ball back on your own 20 with 1:36 left.  On 3rd & 5 Huerta caught a 4 yard pass, on 4th & 1 a pass to Insley was incomplete

Like they say its a game of inches !  If you had recovered that fumble or Montreal lost one more yard they would have punted.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
i liked that story as ADK will defenitely be the first team ever to go 14-0

Amsterboooooooooooooooooooh

Wouldn't worry.... I am sure you will win anyway.  And let me guess... you will not suffer any injuries.

Been a funny year for injuries in the league this year, some teams eg Birmingham have suffered tons of them.  Montreal seemed to stay on the whole relatively injury free until last weekend.  Seems to have been quite a fierce game.

Rheins secondary have been hurt also by injuries as they have two stars inactive this week, unsure what would happen as Rhein have 7 Active players but no Open active players. So if a Rhein CB was injured who would then come in ???

When i have time i'll do a writeup of the other 13-1 teams and write about their only loss in the regular season.

Being at home for the final game i would give you the edge as we know homefield is normally important but Scotland are a very good team, gonna be two good battles.  Ronnies done a great job with the Claymores.  Reminds me of when i switched FB Roel van Teefelen to HB who then had a good year for me and surprised me, Malan from FB-HB  has been one of the surprises of the season.

Hi David,

i do not mind about the win and with 6 or 7 backups starting i think no team could expect a win against a playoff-bound opponent.

Plus:
Injuries in week 14 for the Austrian franchise are hardcoded in the FBPRO-Software. Too bad that i can not crack the source-code to fix it ;-)

 :-\


 ???

must be German kind of humor I think

Austrian, please.....

so think you get the hint  ;D

It'll be interesting to see if Bonner goes out with a solid game, or has his career stats demolished by a lousy game under ADK center (the Stan White syndrome.)

For what it is worth I think you would be better just to play your starters Mario as you may lose momentum.
It certainly happens in the real game on occassions and the FWL software is so close to the real deal sometimes it is weird.

You are the GM though and whatever team you line up is fine by me, The Claymores will simply be trying to win as will you.
I have rested players in the past , but tend to only do so with a one or two players.
I know it is only a game (isn't it ?)   ;) but I like to see players who have played well all season keep their starting spots, especially with the awards in mind as one good week could help a players chances.

Again, for what it is worth, I don't think any game is actually meaningless as the opportunity is there to try gameplans, roster changes etc and also in our own case see why you managed to beat us recently, apart from luck  ;D

I am looking forward to it the Austria Scotland matchups are generally always good games.

It is difficult for me to make a sound call which is the best team in the American Conference as I usually only read the European Play by plays unless there is a direct reason to read a P by P from the American Conference. Having said that the American Conference has several teams who I would certainly want to avoid in a Bowl final as there are some very deceptive teams who would be hard to beat. Several GM's in the American conference have done very well in improving their teams and it looks like they have better still to come.

In Europe I do feel Niki has done an amzing job with Amsterdam and stuck to the task so well and it has totally paid off. It pains us that we only JUST lost to Amsterdam early in the season but they deserved the win and have done nothing but improve. There are probably five other teams in Europe who are on the rise and again all credit to the GM's for pulling them around. It would of course be crazy to ever write off Mario or Marco as they are so good at getting the job done when it matters.

I am a little optimistic though that The Claymores can rough out a win over Austria. The Claymores have no real superstars we have deliberatly built the team up from some awful seasons in past years on a basis of a broad coverage of tough street fighting type guys who will put it in every week, not just show ponies who turn it on now and again. Hopefully we have got somewere near that objective as guys like Mike Malan and Nachi Abe have shown. They are possibly not yet league superstars they just gets the job done and we are very pleased we stuck with Malan when he switched from FB to HB. keeping in mind training camps should show all three of our HB's to have the potential we hoped they would have when we signed them we look forward to future match ups.

The Claymores were not fancied to make the playoffs at the start of the season, all credit to the type of players and their efforts that we have.

Whatever happens in the next game Mario I hope we both avoid injuries and then go for it.

Be Happy all
Ronnie
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Ronnie,
i do not fear any "slowing down" as my team is playing average football anyway.

i cannot remember if there ever was a "slowing down" so i am not sure Wheter the software "recognises" this or not. I do not think so.

Anyways one thing is for sure: i had injuries to key starters so many times when it came toward POs AND i got nobody injured right now and did not have severe injuries apart from one this season so the software might think it is time to kick out one or two Austrian starters.

And i better have HB2 Allens leg broken instead of HB1 Simontons...

And as the game has no effect whatsoever on any other team (except my GM-stat) i would not mind losing. And it is indeed interesting to see the backups perform......

We will see.......

thanks Ronnie, well it cost me some years to built a team, and I have a very good season but like everyone we want to be at the top and stay there, just like Montreal, san Antonio and Frankfurt. The last couple of season more teams have proved that they are stable: Austria, New York and Amsterdam. But I am sure we have a very good group of GM's at the moment so it will be hard to stay at the top, other teams will knock on the door one of these days

You hear that, Battye? Niki's talking smack about us.

hehe you know I told you to stay in the fwl, Battye was a shock he did not even say he considered to stop, I would have said the same if both of you were still a gm! I am more or less saying we have not those kinds of gm's that trade away a whole team for peanuts (nice food btw) and then stop :o

No problem, Jason and Andrew:
I´ll take revenge for Nikis saying next season when my team is going to sweep amsterdam.
Unfortunately Austria and Amsterdam won´t meet once more this season as Frankfurt is going to spank Amsterdams butt in the WC-game (before they are getting spanked by Austria in the EFC-game).......  :P

how late shall I wake you up? I will do next week for the moment sweet dreams

Austria:
1) McCullough is seriously injured, and is being taken to
the locker room for X-rays.
2) G2 #61 Rob Murphy is seriously injured,
and is being taken to the locker room for X-rays.

Du to my roster-moves i only got backups injured instead of starters.
Sultan McCullough (HB) D-4, Torn rotator cuff
Rob Murphy (G) Q-3, Strained hamstring
David Allen (HB) P-1, Mild concussion

Amsterdam:
AMS  : Jeronimo Huerta (HB) O-9, Torn rotator cuff

Summary:
Well, infact what I did was right. Perfectly right.
My prediction of a Frankfurt@Austria-matchup is coming closer.
Did you already wake up, Niki?

hm Mario, maybe you did not realize that Joe Smith start from week 10 till 13 and played 90% of the game in week 14.

I already beat Frankfurt with Smith, maybe, maybe I do not mind if a player gets injuried because I trust that my back ups can do the job almost as good. That you are really worried that one of your starters gets injuried is maybe because you think your back ups have no quality  ???

well in the WC game I can either win or lose same as you, so the possibility that it will be Frankfurt @ Austria is 25%.

BTW: i really don't like the idea that you are celebrate an injury of player of an other team, I think that is a bit crazy/sick thinking

ps: I also do not understand your way of doing, you get angry when people give their opinion about trades you have been involved, but you keep irritating with your anti-amsterdam campaigne. Fine with me but I will consider Austria as a part of Germany (sorry only map I have in house is one from 1939) till you stop with it.

Hey, there was no offense against AMS in my post.

Why do you think that i "celebrated" Huertas injury? I do not mind much about his injury.

All i said is that i predicted AUS/FRA in the EFC-game and with Frankfurts great offense-performance and Huertas injury it is more likely than before. AND Huertas injury made clear that using backups in meaningless games is indeed a good idea. Read the last few posts below - maybe you understand.

Do not take that too personally. (And yes, my backups have lesser quality than my starters. That is why they are....backups.  ;D

And yes: Germany was part of the Austrian Habsburg-Dynasty for hundreds of years. I think you are referring to that when you say that Germany and Austria once where together. right  ;D

I cant remember exactly when Huerta was fit again, i think perhaps in Week 13 or last week.  If i had a starting HB who was injured and missed about 4 or 5 games and was finally healthy i might start him in Week 14 just to see what he can do and if hes fully fit and back to his best in order to start the first playoff game.

Niki couldnt win with Huerta, benching his starter once healthy, if he then loses in the playoffs people will say he should have played his starting HB, as Huerta played in Week 14 and was injured then people say he should have rested him.  Cant win either way.

I think Niki was right to start Huerta, if Huerta had a bad game (after being out for so long) it then makes it easier in the playoffs.  If Huerta didnt play in Week 14 and was injured in the first few plays in the playoff game people would say he shouldnt have started, again Niki cant win.

It was a fluke injury, i mean its very rare we have a player such as O-5 and then when hes healthy he gets injured yet again and is O-7 !  I mean look at Pat Barnes, D-4 and he plays, didnt get a more severe injury

Just one of those things, bad luck for Amsterdam

to be more precise:
Huertas injury is just an example of what MIGHT happen in meaningless games.

Never intended to pick on either Amsterdam or Niki for having him starting. Huerats injury is just an example.

Hope that helps to sort things out.

Well just bad luck really, Huerta could have had that injury in the first drive in the first playoff game.  Like i said Barnes was injured but wasnt injured worse, Huerta was 'ok' but then got a severe injury.  Perhaps hes just injury prone as the season before i'm sure he was injured for a week or two.

Shame not to see a team at full strength in the playoffs but thats football

Okay Mario, since you have no clue about what I get irritated (it is for you easier to irritate me, because I was already a bit)



it is the combi of an injured player + the words: i was right + my prediction  bla bla bla is coming closer!

Because I have an injured player after a game, you are right! as you could have read in previous post of me I am of opinion that it can happen in every game. when you save him in week 14 but he is injured after the first play of WC it did not help you at all.

Besides that I think you can blame the two injured RB's on the fact that the team was not as strong as possible, replace a couple of oliners and it is easier to find a hole, which makes it easier to make a harder hit which can result faster in injured players. This is the first seriously injured player I had in the last couple of years in week 14, while you had some injured players as well in last years week 14.

I agree that back ups are not as good as starters but my back ups are very close to my starters I have various compinations I can do at all positions. so it does not hurt me when a player is injured. I am now playing for like 4 or 5 weeks with my back up RB Smith so far his stats are better then your starting RB.

I am 13-1 this season: my starting HB has been injured 5 games, my WR1 has been out 2 or 3 weeks (I am not sure) I lost my starting C during the season, my LB1 Megna was injured for 6 weeks. If you only have a team with super stars and sh*tty back ups you will have a problem at the end I think.

Ps: I was more referring to the Deutsche reich which resulted in World War II

Well, Austria is defenitely at full strengh regarding starters....

To Niki:
i agree with your points, nevermind my saying.
Since the departure of Jason Compton i am searching for a little "battlefield of words" from time to time. But i never intend to offend you as a "real" person. But as you are the GM of the most successful team so far AND as you are playing im my conference i try to spark some fire in order to have a great EFC-finals against you....
so at least you can be sure of that 16 GMs will cheer for you when you make it there....
oh if forgot: you won´t make it to the EFC-game anyway    :P   ;-)

You have to be careful winding people up Mario !  I Know you are joking but on forums its difficult to do because people cant judge your tone.  If you were in person in a bar then people would realise you were joking so perhaps a few more smileys by your text so people know you arent being serious !  I know you arent being serious but its difficult to tell on text

You keep talking about the EFC Game, surely you should be hyping this game up 'if' you beat Scotland !  You seem to be taking them for granted at the moment !  Hype up the EFC Game and slate Amsterdam if you get there, still have Scotland to get past who are playing very well at the moment.  Scotland are 5-2 on the road this year and they are playing their best offensive football at the moment with Nall/Malan.

Scotland? Who?
is this the father of "beam me up"-Scotty?  :-*

no seriously:
of course every PO-game is crucial and remember last season when every game was decided by a "flip of a coin" and all those games could have gone either way. But i defenitely think that the Claymores (afaik another word for a sword) are melted down by the DarkKnights....

I am veeeeeeeeeeerry confident for the WC-game, but i still think that we are not playing good enough for the EFC-title (which would be my main goal this season).

And if we make it to the bowl i would be happy enough with the EFC-title as i  do not see any way to pass by the AFC-teams, unless my team surprises me in the PO games with exceptional performance.....

Well in the league (and also the NFL) some teams can surprise in the playoffs and play a notch above.  I cant wait to sim the games tomorrow evening as on paper all 4 games are going to be very good.  Its a pity i'm away from thurs-sun or we could run the Championship games much earlier also !

well I am not, since this weekend I am in Dusseldorf/Cologne to watch to NFLE games  ;D so Monday morning sounds good to me  8)

"much earlier"?
We play the WC-games on Wednesday evening so we cannot play the Championship-games on Thursday morning due the roster moves etc etc...

Paul,
"if" i make it to the Bowl, please do not play it before Wednesday moring as i am away this weekend until tuesday night and i wóuld not be able to send you any roster moves until tuesday morning - unless i find a way to an internet connection (which i might, but that is not for sure....) Thanks.

Well i'll stick to the schedule, wildcard games tomorrow evening (6pm ish GMT) and then as i'm away the Championship games wont be till Monday.  FWL Bowl XV i would like a bit of buildup to so i might do some mini previews after the games and then run FWL Bowl XV on Friday 28th April.  Then we'll have a very short break (at the end of the day most GM's dont trade till after the retirements) and then run retirements and have a bit of time for trading and also sorting out the draftees which is a lot of work.

Hope to get running Season 16 soon after but we need a bit of time for offseason trading and setting up the draft.

Its great now you have i think every FWL player in the league who has been drafted now and theres no original FWL players.

Maybe someone can sponsor the Kreiner/Compton Fantasy League. Both of us get all nine teams in one conference, and the regular season and playoffs are just a tuneup for the pivotal league championship at the end pitting the best Compton team against the best Kreiner team.

Its such a shame you cant get teams from older files. I of course can load up a Season 4 team for example but i can only pit two Season 4 clubs against each other.  Be great if you could have the Season 10 FWL Bowl champs against the Season 3 champs etc

Only just seen this thread!!! I'll accept that Niki wasn't talking about us! I've always known that I've been a "bad" GM - i.e. not winning many games, rather than a "bad GM", i.e. trading away all the best players and then vanishing. I agonised long and hard about resigning from Paris, as Paul will tell you, as he got the email exchange. The final straw came when the FWL was blocked by work's internet software! Anyway, it's much more relaxing watching Paris lose when you're not the GM!

well at least someones enjoying that  ;D ;D

but shouldn´t it be the best  two teams competing each other?

So it would be Kreiner1 vs. Kreiner2, right?  :P

>Scotland? Who?


Beware the sharp edge of the Claymore Mario  ..................  Ignore both sides at your peril

The offense SEEMS average the Defense SEEMS average together ARE they average??????



Time will tell , time will tell , perhaps you count on your match up with the Admirals just a little too early  ;)

You have only a fifteen point loss to overcome and you will have your starters back, but now we are angry
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   (jokin)

The pen is mightier than the sword UNLESS that sword IS A CLAYMORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope the game is a classic

Ronnie
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In the immortal words of Ralph Kramden: har de har har.

Ahhhh....

It is good to see that everybody is against me.....
*smack*

 ;D

Hmm...... Did you forget to sharpen it before you handed them out to your offense?

>>The pen is mightier than the sword UNLESS that sword IS A CLAYMORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mario replied.....

>Hmm...... Did you forget to sharpen it before you handed them out to your offense?

To which Ronnie replies....

No we didn't forget we just did not bother. we thought that ADK would be so rusty that we would not need to sharpen The Claymore this week.

We did feel that you wanted to play Amsterdam SO much that we would play without training this week to give you a chance. We even gifted you two yes TWO fumbles which allowed Austria a TD and a FG. What more can we do than that. this allowed you to scrape and scramble home to a narrow 17 -10 win  ;D

Should we have sharpened the sword..... perhaps.... but whats the point as The admirals will put ADK TO the sword anyway  ;)

Achhh good game....  well done. (serious bit)  Good luck to all the teams in the Playoffs.

And we can confirm that The Claymores WITH Munro as GM WILL be back next season and go that bit further.

And to Mario we send that Ancient fine Scots greeting and words of encouragement
"Awa and Boil yer heid ya numpty"  ;D

(to avoid confusion in text that was a joke my ancient Austrian friend)

We softened ADK up Niki ... it's up to you to finish the job now  ;)

Be Happy all
Ronnie
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apart of the fact that i thank you for handing over the ball to me so nicely and that  i literally did not understand one single word of your "greetings":

is there an anti-mario-coalition forming between Scotland and Amsterdam?
Hmmmm......... You are going to cross my way next season, Ronnie, that is for sure....   >:(

No no no no no   not an anti Mario Alliance...

Just want to see ADK get stuffed like a Christmas Turkey for putting The Scottish Claymores out of the playoffs.

Well come on at least I am honest   ;D

Mario good guy

ADK bad guys   :D

As for The ancient Scottish Greeting .... err well umm.....  I will explain it to you if you win the Bowl this season.
How Fair can I be ?   

SERIOIUSLY THOUGH !!!!!!

Good luck to ALL teams in the  playoffs

Ronnie
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