Statisical Comparison Season 1 to now.

[velcro]

This is a longish comparison between the starters listed for season 1 and the starters listed for this season as just before week 1. It includes all the Offensive and Defensive starters - I really don't care enough about the kickers or backups, I've included 4 DL and 4 LBs as the game tends to jump between 3-4 and 4-3 even 4-4 sometimes...

There are the average values. First row is the Average in Season 1, Second row is the average this season and the last row is the difference.

I have mins and max values as well, but then you'll need a month to read them all.....

See my thoughts in the thread, "A look back at week 1"

cheers
Ross

QB1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   74.44   66.67   67.83   76.78   70.39   61.72   75.17   69.11   562.11
Average   77.89   77.94   80.22   90.11   80   84.33   92.94   89.72   673.17
Average   3.44   11.28   12.39   13.33   9.61   22.61   17.78   20.61   111.06

HB1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   81.83   80.83   82.72   77.72   80.83   76.39   68.78   69   618.11
Average   92.17   90.28   88.78   88.94   86.83   86.22   77.67   77.17   688.06
Average   10.33   9.44   6.06   11.22   6   9.83   8.89   8.17   69.94

FB1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   71.13   75.88   69.31   72.81   68.38   65.19   61.31   59.38   543.38
Average   90.22   87.83   86.5   89.83   85.33   84.11   76.44   75.61   675.89
Average   19.1   11.96   17.19   17.02   16.96   18.92   15.13   16.24   132.51

WR1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   84.5   78.28   84.94   74.28   83.17   81.94   68.28   69.94   625.33
Average   93.94   89.44   89.22   83.5   91.5   85   79.33   76   687.94
Average   9.44   11.17   4.28   9.22   8.33   3.06   11.06   6.06   62.61

WR2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   82.78   79.33   82.06   66.89   74.72   76.72   64.67   65.61   592.78
Average   92.78   86.83   88.11   81.94   90.39   82.56   77.72   75.28   675.61
Average   10   7.5   6.06   15.06   15.67   5.83   13.06   9.67   82.83

TE1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   75.88   73.24   70.76   72   76.88   70.18   63.76   66.29   569
Average   90.5   87.61   87.72   89   88.33   81.56   77.39   71.94   674.06
Average   14.62   14.38   16.96   17   11.45   11.38   13.62   5.65   105.06

C1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   59.22   46.94   59.94   80.5   73.11   68.28   57.06   70.72   515.78
Average   77.56   84.33   88.78   93.94   81.06   84.5   75.22   76.5   661.89
Average   18.33   37.39   28.83   13.44   7.94   16.22   18.17   5.78   146.11

G1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   61.11   48.78   64.44   78.06   59.61   70.33   58.33   66.56   507.22
Average   80.56   87.17   90.28   94.83   67.44   87.5   74.67   73.94   656.39
Average   19.44   38.39   25.83   16.78   7.83   17.17   16.33   7.39   149.17

G2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   58.11   47.94   59.83   79.72   59.89   66.17   57.11   64.5   493.28
Average   78.78   84.28   89.06   93.83   67   84.61   76.28   78.06   651.89
Average   20.67   36.33   29.22   14.11   7.11   18.44   19.17   13.56   158.61

T1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   59.22   53.39   60.72   80.56   60.61   63.56   55.83   62.83   496.72
Average   80.67   88.06   89.67   95.33   71.83   87.61   77.11   76   666.28
Average   21.44   34.67   28.94   14.78   11.22   24.06   21.28   13.17   169.56

T2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   55.06   51.22   58.28   75.94   54.61   62   51.72   63.06   471.89
Average   79.5   87   89.67   94.44   69.61   85.94   76.17   76.44   658.78
Average   24.44   35.78   31.39   18.5   15   23.94   24.44   13.39   186.89

DE1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   69.44   66.72   65.78   77.78   60.39   62.33   54.17   58.28   515.28
Average   76.94   79.89   79.94   85.72   68.11   82.33   70.17   70.72   613.83
Average   7.5   13.17   14.17   7.94   7.72   20   16   12.44   98.56

DE2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   61.78   58.83   58.22   74.06   55.28   60.61   51.06   56.78   476.61
Average   77.22   77.44   76.56   84.28   67.89   79.33   68.44   69.06   600.22
Average   15.44   18.61   18.33   10.22   12.61   18.72   17.39   12.28   123.61

DT1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   62.5   56.06   62.67   78.83   54.56   61.72   48.39   57   481.72
Average   75.11   76.89   78.11   85.56   61.17   80.94   69.72   69.56   597.06
Average   12.61   20.83   15.44   6.72   6.61   19.22   21.33   12.56   115.33

DT2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   54.07   55.57   56.21   73.14   51.29   63.36   51.93   54.43   460
Average   73.94   76.33   78.28   84.94   63   77.72   67.89   67.06   589.17
Average   19.87   20.76   22.06   11.8   11.71   14.37   15.96   12.63   129.17

LB1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   75.78   69.33   73.72   77   67.11   66.11   74.17   63.67   566.89
Average   82.17   78.28   77.33   82.28   73.44   80.61   76.17   72.17   622.44
Average   6.39   8.94   3.61   5.28   6.33   14.5   2   8.5   55.56

LB2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   68.67   62   72.17   75.44   65.67   66.94   71.61   64.28   546.78
Average   82   77.72   76.11   82   69.61   80.11   76.22   72.17   615.94
Average   13.33   15.72   3.94   6.56   3.94   13.17   4.61   7.89   69.17

LB3   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   67.44   64.94   69.11   69.5   62.17   62.33   65.61   59.56   520.67
Average   81.72   77.5   77.22   81.78   65.83   79.94   74.22   70.39   608.61
Average   14.28   12.56   8.11   12.28   3.67   17.61   8.61   10.83   87.94

LB4   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   66.78   65.89   66.61   69.17   61.28   64.39   64.83   58   516.94
Average   80.06   75.72   73.89   81.39   65   78.5   72.39   67.33   594.28
Average   13.28   9.83   7.28   12.22   3.72   14.11   7.56   9.33   77.33

CB1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   83   78.44   81   63.56   77.44   73.56   59.67   67.5   584.17
Average   86.22   81.89   81.94   73   81.72   81.11   76.17   71.5   633.56
Average   3.22   3.44   0.94   9.44   4.28   7.56   16.5   4   49.39

CB2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   79.06   80.39   80.56   63   72.22   69.11   61.28   65.67   571.28
Average   85.78   80   81.22   73.06   81.22   79.72   73.39   68.5   622.89
Average   6.72   -0.39   0.67   10.06   9   10.61   12.11   2.83   51.61

S1   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   76.56   78.56   77.44   71.72   70   70.44   65.56   64.78   575.06
Average   85.28   82.06   79.33   77.94   84.61   80.89   77   74.06   641.17
Average   8.72   3.5   1.89   6.22   14.61   10.44   11.44   9.28   66.11

S2   SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
Average   75.61   77.39   75.11   66.28   68.89   69   63.67   64.94   560.89
Average   84.89   79.83   79.61   76.44   81.17   79.28   75.5   70.83   627.56
Average   9.28   2.44   4.5   10.17   12.28   10.28   11.83   5.89   66.67

[Niki]

well what I see so fast is that the major increase in the lines is not ST but AC and AG

[velcro]

And now the same thing using the 2002 season week 1 figures:

QB1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   73.5   72.94   74.5   82.78   78.5   76.67   86.33   79.67   624.89
Now Average   77.89   77.94   80.22   90.11   80   84.33   92.94   89.72   673.17
Diff Average   4.39   5   5.72   7.33   1.5   7.67   6.61   10.06   48.28

HB1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   88.67   83.67   82.28   78.83   84.22   80.67   72.78   72.56   643.67
Now Average   92.17   90.28   88.78   88.94   86.83   86.22   77.67   77.17   688.06
Diff Average   3.5   6.61   6.5   10.11   2.61   5.56   4.89   4.61   44.39

FB1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   85.39   80.39   80.11   82.28   79.83   78.39   72.67   72.11   631.17
Now Average   90.22   87.83   86.5   89.83   85.33   84.11   76.44   75.61   675.89
Diff Average   4.83   7.44   6.39   7.56   5.5   5.72   3.78   3.5   44.72

WR1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   89.78   84.44   83.28   73.17   88.5   78.89   74.06   74   646.11
Now Average   93.94   89.44   89.22   83.5   91.5   85   79.33   76   687.94
Diff Average   4.17   5   5.94   10.33   3   6.11   5.28   2   41.83

WR2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   87.72   84.28   82.61   72.56   86.78   77.56   72.83   71.5   635.83
Now Average   92.78   86.83   88.11   81.94   90.39   82.56   77.72   75.28   675.61
Diff Average   5.06   2.56   5.5   9.39   3.61   5   4.89   3.78   39.78

TE1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   85.17   79.44   79.33   77.61   85.78   76.94   69.89   66.94   621.11
Now Average   90.5   87.61   87.72   89   88.33   81.56   77.39   71.94   674.06
Diff Average   5.33   8.17   8.39   11.39   2.56   4.61   7.5   5   52.94

C1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   68.72   70   74.67   88.67   76.56   77.72   69.83   70.83   597
Now Average   77.56   84.33   88.78   93.94   81.06   84.5   75.22   76.5   661.89
Diff Average   8.83   14.33   14.11   5.28   4.5   6.78   5.39   5.67   64.89

G1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   73.06   74.5   78.56   88.28   72.11   78.28   69.22   73.39   607.39
Now Average   80.56   87.17   90.28   94.83   67.44   87.5   74.67   73.94   656.39
Diff Average   7.5   12.67   11.72   6.56   -4.67   9.22   5.44   0.56   49

G2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   71   67.72   76.33   88.06   66.39   78.56   66.72   71.17   585.94
Now Average   78.78   84.28   89.06   93.83   67   84.61   76.28   78.06   651.89
Diff Average   7.78   16.56   12.72   5.78   0.61   6.06   9.56   6.89   65.94

T1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   74.33   76.56   77.78   87.39   70.39   79   69.72   71.33   606.5
Now Average   80.67   88.06   89.67   95.33   71.83   87.61   77.11   76   666.28
Diff Average   6.33   11.5   11.89   7.94   1.44   8.61   7.39   4.67   59.78

T2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   74.61   75.06   77.72   87.78   68.56   78.56   68.17   68.39   598.83
Now Average   79.5   87   89.67   94.44   69.61   85.94   76.17   76.44   658.78
Diff Average   4.89   11.94   11.94   6.67   1.06   7.39   8   8.06   59.94

DE1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   72.56   74.44   73.33   81.56   60.89   70.28   60.11   61.5   554.67
Now Average   76.94   79.89   79.94   85.72   68.11   82.33   70.17   70.72   613.83
Diff Average   4.39   5.44   6.61   4.17   7.22   12.06   10.06   9.22   59.17

DE2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   71.88   71.56   70.88   81.88   58.75   70.56   59.44   59.25   544.19
Now Average   77.22   77.44   76.56   84.28   67.89   79.33   68.44   69.06   600.22
Diff Average   5.35   5.88   5.68   2.4   9.14   8.77   9.01   9.81   56.03

DT1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   69.33   71.22   72.94   83.06   62.06   70.33   63.44   63.11   555.5
Now Average   75.11   76.89   78.11   85.56   61.17   80.94   69.72   69.56   597.06
Diff Average   5.78   5.67   5.17   2.5   -0.89   10.61   6.28   6.44   41.56

DT2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   67   68.78   68.33   82.83   52.67   66.56   59.11   60.94   526.22
Now Average   73.94   76.33   78.28   84.94   63   77.72   67.89   67.06   589.17
Diff Average   6.94   7.56   9.94   2.11   10.33   11.17   8.78   6.11   62.94

LB1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   78.39   71.17   69.33   79.11   67.72   70.61   71.72   65.94   574
Now Average   82.17   78.28   77.33   82.28   73.44   80.61   76.17   72.17   622.44
Diff Average   3.78   7.11   8   3.17   5.72   10   4.44   6.22   48.44

LB2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   77.56   69.33   71.11   80.61   65.89   69.33   69   66.11   568.94
Now Average   82   77.72   76.11   82   69.61   80.11   76.22   72.17   615.94
Diff Average   4.44   8.39   5   1.39   3.72   10.78   7.22   6.06   47

LB3      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   75.72   69.83   69.5   78.83   66.11   68.06   70.28   65.11   563.44
Now Average   81.72   77.5   77.22   81.78   65.83   79.94   74.22   70.39   608.61
Diff Average   6   7.67   7.72   2.94   -0.28   11.89   3.94   5.28   45.17

LB4      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   74.17   71.22   69.5   78.39   63.5   70.39   66.72   59.44   553.33
Now Average   80.06   75.72   73.89   81.39   65   78.5   72.39   67.33   594.28
Diff Average   5.89   4.5   4.39   3   1.5   8.11   5.67   7.89   40.94

CB1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   84.17   78.56   79.22   68.22   77.72   72.44   68.78   66.17   595.28
Now Average   86.22   81.89   81.94   73   81.72   81.11   76.17   71.5   633.56
Diff Average   2.06   3.33   2.72   4.78   4   8.67   7.39   5.33   38.28

CB2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   83.83   77.17   77.06   66.44   75.11   73.22   69.17   63.22   585.22
Now Average   85.78   80   81.22   73.06   81.22   79.72   73.39   68.5   622.89
Diff Average   1.94   2.83   4.17   6.61   6.11   6.5   4.22   5.28   37.67

S1      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   82.67   77.94   76.89   69.89   77.78   72.39   69.28   67.5   594.33
Now Average   80.89   82.11   79.5   78.39   83.83   81.22   76.83   74.56   637.33
Diff Average   -1.78   4.17   2.61   8.5   6.06   8.83   7.56   7.06   43

S2      SP   AC   AG   ST   HA   EN   IN   DI   Total
2002 Average   83   76.56   76.5   68.44   76.83   71.44   67.56   66.94   587.28
Now Average   84.89   79.83   79.61   76.44   81.17   79.28   75.5   71.11   627.83
Diff Average   1.89   3.28   3.11   8   4.33   7.83   7.94   4.17   40.56

[Marco_Frankfurt]

Thank you for doing this work

From that data I see that we have far better OL (no need to increase here as I mentioned somewhere before)
 and RB as well as TE are better especially in ST
At the same time there is not much difference in DL und LB ST BUT in DL SP-AC-AG, again
I think here it would be best to make the changes !

Maybe we should reduce the cap for these attributes from 95 (for defense in general) to 90 or even 85
(just for DL !)

[Mario ADK]

Maybe we should do this....
Maybe we should do that....
Maybe we should do nothing....
The range of discussions is from "small changes" to "the big clash"

Paul, can you just tell us what YOU told David to do? i think you should decide. bOr does David come forward with a proposal? Or do we flip a coin?

Week 3 is just 4 days away: Are changes to be done anyway? i mean: you cannot announce the new roster sunday night when we play a game on monday as there might be roster-moves. The changes need to be done til Friday i think...

Please finish all those discussions by simply saying what you intend to do.

[Paul-London]

I havent had time to look at all the different stats etc, i gave the files to David.  He gave them back to me today, had a quick glance over them, the d-line seems to be reduced by -2, i think for now the rest is the same.  I presume David did this to help the rushing attacks

Week 3 will take place Monday then i'm off on holiday until September Monday 11th.

So we'll run Week 3 see how the stats are.  If theyre 'okay' then we'll hold off until the offseason to do anything major and see how the rest of this season pans out perhaps.

The stats in Week 1/2 were very bad, i know you said you didnt mind the blocked punts but the amount we had in 2 weeks was stupid and unrealistic.  I love running the FWL when we have realistic stats, when we had 5 blocked punts, most RB's rushing for 20 yards on 15 carries and 11 sacks a game for some teams its just silly.

So basically we'll see how Week 3 pans out

[Mario ADK]

now THAT is a word. *clapclapclap*

Let us play week 3 and discuss the results and than let us move forward - or not. Regarding the outcome.

[Niki]

following adjustmenst have been made:

Oline: all skills +1
Dline SP AC AG -2

That is everything